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Henkjan
8/17/2017 4:56:10 AM

A links with 5 songs were the drums are recorded with 2 NT2A large diaphragm microphones left and right at 158 cm = 62" from the snare drum batter/top head. 
The keys are recorded left and right from the line out from the keyboard.
It is a 4 track recording: 2 drums (L&R) and 2 keys (L&R).
Also the 24 bit wav files are included.
The microphones are positioned extreme left and right to broaden the stereo 
and get more separation and details from the entire kit.
With added close microphones you of course will get a more full sound with more body and punch and depth. 
The tracks are not editied and that gives the maximum sound quality.
Quantisation and all editing does have a negative effect on the sound quality. 
Attention is given to phase and alignment but ...with this recording method there were almost no phase problems, alignment also was almost  OK. 
A very quick recording method to quickly get studio results.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wf5trtkyzvnqvl3/AAD-0OeUYrGjima9ME72j_y3a?dl=0

Henkjan
7/4/2017 10:48:31 PM

Matt Johnson: 2 Track Drum Recording with 4 Mics using 511's, 517's and 542's (expensive!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKYx4sg6o9I
https://www.thomann.de/nl/rupert_neve_designs.html?gclid=CMailPzH8dQCFdVAGwodJ1oCHg
https://www.thomann.de/nl/rupert_neve_designs_system_500_componenten.html



Henkjan
6/28/2017 8:20:22 AM

My percussion recording equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6TS6gDKGUA

Henkjan
6/16/2017 10:15:12 PM

Ash Soan on Session Drumming and Recording - In The Studio With Ash Soan Pt. 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqEY0sXdM-o

Ash Soan's Studio Setup (and Recording James Morrison) - In The Studio With Ash Soan Pt. 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIjX6g38IaI

Ash Soan's Home Recording Advice - In The Studio With Ash Soan Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ8dRc4N5Ws



Henkjan
5/24/2017 11:09:44 PM

To get a great drum sound you need a warm woolen hat and than your drums sounds Ok in every environment. A pet also may improve your drumsound drastically
Check this video's !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex4eD75pI1M
Here also a nice warm woolen hat to get a great drum sound
Neil Peart Drum Solo - Rush Live in Frankfurt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWRMOJQDiLU
Better than any room mic, even ribbon mics or Abbey Road Studio: use a pet!
Will Ferrell and Chad Smith Drum-Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uBOtQOO70Y
Drum Micing Techniques with Grammy Winner Cameron Webb - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcc7rL_P_M4
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpyUGZeMUtOvt57UACw3H2g
Tracking Drums - Joe Chiccarelli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKbLf_dvx9A
Kick & Bass Relationship - Tchad Blake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcMqi23McBM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-y-8VGVtlP8zDnT60dDgkw

Deconstructing a Mix

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP26QhB-SH_Hlq7GdQ6zVrf4W-KHjooLW

Henkjan
5/8/2017 1:55:24 AM

How to record dynamic DRUM tracks with just the ROOM MIC a la Led Zeppelin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpoQD0ZF5O8
Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 / Recording drums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p45fq-0YmMw
Recording Drums: What Difference Does The Room Make?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sydt50-Cxhc
Recorderman Technique - The Real Story from the Recording Session it was Invented At
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR3oYOAGhQE
How To Record BIG, FAT DRUM SOUNDS - Tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSs3Sr_ZiTI
C DUNCAN @ 02 APOLLO MANCHESTER (DRUM RECORDING)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWyu69ZqCKk



Henkjan
3/31/2017 9:28:03 AM

Absolute beginners guide for recording. (up to date march 2017). 
Warch the whole series of 6!
https://www.recordingrevolution.com/record-song-from-scratch-getting-started/
Henkjan
3/18/2017 6:19:27 AM

The Simon Phillips Session - Drums Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsvdSVSgSo
The Simon Phillips Session - Drums Example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rR-JpeVaZ8
Simon Phillips, studio tips and tricks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gUUPNRVISE
Simon Phillips Talks About the Studio Drums for Groove Agent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWH2Iyi-m7c
Simon Phillips: In the Studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQW2xL5c2UE
Simon Phillips Studio Drums - Drum Solo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpQDjES_vU
Simon Phillips: Interview & Studio Tour - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUnelkU8VLk
Simon Phillips drum lesson: getting a big sound from your drum kit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrvL67PGRw


Henkjan
1/28/2017 12:09:37 AM

Hoi Henkjan,

Ik ben opzoek naar een drummer die een cover wil opnemen van Toto van het nummer A Thousand Years. Wil met de drums beginnen namelijk. En zo het project uitbouwen. Met Bas, Gitaar , Keyboard. Dit is onderdeel van een groter project Toto Tribute Project. Heb wel eerder een andere drummer gevonden maar de geluidskwaliteit die hij aanleverde was dusdanig slecht dat dit onbruikbaar was om te gebruiken. En wil kwalitatief echt wel een mooi stukje werk van maken.  Maar mijn vraag aan jouw heb jij zin om aan dit project mee te werken?

Laat maar weten.

Groeten uut het mooie Zuidoost Drenthe
Richard

Pailwood dat is helemaal toppie.

Toto - A Thousand Years "Remastered"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQhjFX12ce0
http://www.youtube-mp3.org/nl
Using this you can make a songconcept/play along.
Perhaps add 2 bars click intro.
Nowadays people use a click so they can quantise. 

It is close to 4/4 96 bpm with a 16ths feeling but not exactly!

This is not according to modern standards with fixed tempo.

Quantisation does destroy some of the feel but it really gives a modern straight professional character. Even minor timing errors can be corrected. 

Simon Phillips used a click in Toto and yes ...the feel and groove was destroyed.

I can play along the original . 

When you use a click i can make the timing 100% 

Het publiceren van covers op Myonlineband is verboden.
Op You Tube kan meer maar soms komen er wel auteursrechten meldingen en dan moet je de video verwijderen anders sluiten ze je kanaal. Als je kanaal niet commercieel is kan er meer. Ik heb in die zin een schoon You Tube kanaal. Heb alles met een melding verwijderd.

Gebruik aub een click voor je songconcept.
Als het origineel van Toto met click is opgenomen kan ik dat meedrummen.
De meerstemmige vocals zijn schitterend.
Uitdagend stuk.

Er zijn veel toto tribute bands en de kwaliteit ligt enorm hoog. 
Vaak conservatorium afgestudeerden. 
Zelfs Simon Phillips (ben een fan) kan mijns inziens niet de groove en feel van Jeff Porcaro evenaren.

Dit is mijn laatste song; deze had geen click en wisselende tempo's
The 8th Caller (Progressive Rock) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMdY0N6Ofs
Heb deze week een nieuwe mix gemaakt.
Kost ca. minimaal 1 maand zo'n project.
Kan snel iets indrummen voor een zeer ruw idee.
Kan wel snel iets uploaden na de final take om een ruw idee te geven maar voordat het echt lekker klinkt is heel wat bewerken/mixen nodig. 




pailwood
1/27/2017 4:26:43 AM

Hoi Henkjan,

Ik ben opzoek naar een drummer die een cover wil opnemen van Toto van het nummer A Thousand Years. Wil met de drums beginnen namelijk. En zo het project uitbouwen. Met Bas, Gitaar , Keyboard. Dit is onderdeel van een groter project Toto Tribute Project. Heb wel eerder een andere drummer gevonden maar de geluidskwaliteit die hij aanleverde was dusdanig slecht dat dit onbruikbaar was om te gebruiken. En wil kwalitatief echt wel een mooi stukje werk van maken.  Maar mijn vraag aan jouw heb jij zin om aan dit project mee te werken?

Laat maar weten.

Groeten uut het mooie Zuidoost Drenthe
Richard

Henkjan
1/7/2017 10:08:19 AM

Drum kit includes: 10, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22 cymbals and 2 sets of 14 hi hats
Cymbals are K Zildjian, A Zildjian, Sabian HH Sound Control, Paiste Signature

Drums: 10 picollo, 14 snare, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 toms and 22 bass drum.
Snare is Ludwig Supraphonic Bronze.
Other drums are Pearl Master Custom Maple. 


Henkjan
1/7/2017 10:03:23 AM

My Drum Recording Setup
 BD, SD, HH, T1, T2, T3, OHL, OHR, stereo back, snare bottom
OHL&OHR are the high mikes Rode NT2A; (listeners view)
Back is stereo high behind the drummer (L&R is drummers view)
OHL,OHR & stereo back are at same distance from snare drum.
OHL&OHR are at same distance as distance to snare centre (Triangle OHL, OHR, SD)




Henkjan
1/6/2017 5:56:54 AM

Recording Rock Drums with 8 Microphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fissQs1Aa88
Recording in 1 Room w/Guests Cosmosquad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qkwj_Y5HuI

Henkjan
12/28/2016 11:44:34 PM

Experiment with new setup for very big drum kit (8 piece and lots of cymbals)
Several mics at 58" from snare drum top head centre or 58" from snare drum bottom head centre
Drummers view 
Room / overhead / surround / bottom mics
1. Over Head Right (OHR) at 78"high 
2. Over Head Left (OHL) at 78" high 
3. Back Stereo (BS) near Right Shoulder / Right Ear  drummer
4. Bottom Right (BR) before the drumkit close to the bottom at floor tom side
5. Bottom Left (BL) before the drumkit close to the bottom at hi hat / snare side
Close mics
6. Snare Top
7. Snare Bottom
8. Bass Drum Inside (near hole) 
9. Hi Hat 

Discussion:
Kit is to large for close mics everywhere do not have enough quality mics and enough channels.
One tom mic is broken so not enough mics for all toms
Tom mics did give chaotic sound; had to be cleaned thouroughly manually (only tom hits)
and even that result was not top.
Paying much attention to placement, phase and delay of room / surround / overhead / bottom mics does give a nice full sound in a bedroom studio.

This method does imply that my drumming does produce the right sound and balance for all instruments; cannot adjust the tom or cymbals sounds.
Only snare, bass and hi hat can be adjusted.

Will do a recording and upload the result.

This song is recorded with 3 overhead / room mics and the 4 mentioned close mics.
http://myonlineband.com/music/home/song/4030





Henkjan
12/6/2016 5:17:37 AM

Glyn Johns ladies and gentlemen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyy55ALu18Y

Henkjan
10/21/2016 2:08:43 PM

Drum recording tutorial (you can use filter last month or last week)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drum+recording+tutorial
Ultimate studios Inc. has lots of nice drum recording video last months
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC22OyiBTp8BrcVIeGf-hqGg
Studio Pro Live also has many nice recording tips
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL19CB074D80EE0501




Henkjan
10/4/2016 4:55:34 AM

Recording Drums with the Recorderman Configuration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRlGa_Pv1Nc
Recording Drum Room Mics: Mid/Side Configuration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-0JZ_wO2wA
Compressing Drum Room Microphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97izTVwBMv0
Stereo Drum Room Mic Techniques: Blumlein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqNgf-HhfbE
Recording Drums: Check Your Phase!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45x1-hDjNww
In Session with Dankrupt: Recording Drums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTH_1C5itE
Recording Drums Using Ribbon, Condenser, and Dynamic Microphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yjpbNQzjfs



Henkjan
8/10/2016 10:07:41 PM

Basic Recording Techniques: Hand Percussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqefsne19IY

Audio-Technica Basic Recording Techniques -- Latin Percussion Overview | Full Compass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Dtf9xQlpc




Henkjan
6/8/2016 8:31:49 AM

Elmo Arteaga Explains and Demonstrates a Hard Rock Drum Setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQSx8Ck4oAg


Henkjan
5/20/2016 11:49:18 AM

Drum Tracks for Play Along

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fpsbgb8j7jszgr1/AAAlb0DzlBecAUHLjirhD6iIa?dl=0

108 drum tracks, MP3 320 kbps, 920 MB

70 to 200 bpm

tempo and style indication

2 bars click intro, normalised (max. volume)

close to time grid/click

compatible with loops (drums, percussion, bass, etc.)

can be edited (change structure, re-use, isolate or eliminate parts)

can be used as loop

tuned big high end drum kit

carefully recorded in home studio

most are multitrack recorded

for non-commercial use, equal rights

please give credits (mention my name) and send me a copy or link of your song 

for publication on my YouTube, Facebook, Soundcloud, MyOnlineband, ...

I am willing to assist in the songwriting, playing, recording, etc.  process.

Have fun!


You Tube playlist with corresponding drumtracks. 
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-pI2K26zl5I0nor5_VRIcAruYRRMVBCT 

This project is about drum recording and related subjects it is updated regularly. http://myonlineband.com/MusicianCollaboration/SongWorkspace/106 

This project has real live jam sessions for play along http://myonlineband.com/MusicianCollaboration/SongWorkspace/1934


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